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Farrell and Williams not in the squad for this one which in all honesty takes away some of my confidence. Still, plenty of quality on show and enough to take the win. We really need Smith to step up with a decent kicking game. If we can keep the ball and pin them back with an effective kicking game we'll take the points.
John Bateman, Joe Bretherton, Gregg Burke, Josh Charnley, Tony Clubb, Ben Flower, Anthony Gelling, Oliver Gildart, Nick Gregson, Dom Manfredi, Lee Mossop, Sean O’Loughlin, Sam Powell, Dan Sarginson, Matty Smith, Ryan Sutton, Taulima Tautai, Lewis Tierney, Joel Tomkins
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Farrell and Williams not in the squad for this one which in all honesty takes away some of my confidence. Still, plenty of quality on show and enough to take the win. We really need Smith to step up with a decent kicking game. If we can keep the ball and pin them back with an effective kicking game we'll take the points.
John Bateman, Joe Bretherton, Gregg Burke, Josh Charnley, Tony Clubb, Ben Flower, Anthony Gelling, Oliver Gildart, Nick Gregson, Dom Manfredi, Lee Mossop, Sean O’Loughlin, Sam Powell, Dan Sarginson, Matty Smith, Ryan Sutton, Taulima Tautai, Lewis Tierney, Joel Tomkins
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| Tierney might be back for this one as Sarginson was poor under the high ball last week. Bowen was badly exposed last season and we don't want a repeat of that. However if Tierney does play we lose Sarginson's greater attacking threat. We'll also miss Faz badly.
We miss Micky Mac in these games and Sam too - big game players. Of course Saints are far from being full strength, but they have Roby and they are twice the team with him in.
Effectively we are weak at 1, 6, 9 and 13!!! Although Matty was poor last week he has been good in wins at Hull and Huddersfield when his kicking won the game. I'm expecting him to bounce back, but we need more from others not just Matty. A big game from Lockers would help.
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| I'd stick with Sarge at FB but would fully understand if Tierney got the nod. Joel should be chomping at the bit having not played yet.
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| It's not something I would go with personally but I'm wondering if he's looking at going Tierney at 1 with Sarge at 6 to get Lockers back in the pack whilst Williams is out
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| Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"Tierney might be back for this one as Sarginson was poor under the high ball last week. Bowen was badly exposed last season and we don't want a repeat of that. However if Tierney does play we lose Sarginson's greater attacking threat. We'll also miss Faz badly.
We miss Micky Mac in these games and Sam too - big game players. Of course Saints are far from being full strength, but they have Roby and they are twice the team with him in.
Effectively we are weak at 1, 6, 9 and 13!!! Although Matty was poor last week he has been good in wins at Hull and Huddersfield when his kicking won the game. I'm expecting him to bounce back, but we need more from others not just Matty. A big game from Lockers would help.'"
I remember Sarginson dropping one bomb, were there more or are you just referring to that one? I think Saints will probably end our good Friday streak here, we're just too battered. Joel Tomkins returning doesn't fill me with confidence
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"I remember Sarginson dropping one bomb, were there more or are you just referring to that one? I think Saints will probably end our good Friday streak here, we're just too battered.'"
I think he might have only been guilty of one actual knock on but I think he dropped two behind him and completely missed another. I remember thinking on the night that I hope Wilkin was watching!
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"I think he might have only been guilty of one actual knock on but I think he dropped two behind him and completely missed another. I remember thinking on the night that I hope Wilkin was watching!'"
Fair does. You don't really see the Radlinski style fullbacks who's main qualities were that they caught all the bombs and made try saving tackles anymore do you? I think there's too much of an attacking emphasis on the position.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Fair does. You don't really see the Radlinski style fullbacks who's main qualities were that they caught all the bombs and made try saving tackles anymore do you? I think there's too much of an attacking emphasis on the position.'"
Very true. The position has transformed massively over the last 5 years I'd say. I think Sam Tomkins had a lot to do with that in this country as he provided an attacking threat different to what we were used to over here and the full back position took over from loose forward as the 3rd ball player if you like.
I think Hardaker has a very good balance as he is strong in both aspects of the game. Tomkins is better with the ball but weaker defensively in my opinion.
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| Important we start well. The mood at St.Helens isn't great at the moment. A strong start will be key.
Dawson/Owens v Gelling/Manfredi should be a clear route for joy.
Hopefully Cunningham will continue to play Turner at stand off.
Sadly for us fullback is our area of weakness. We must get to Walsh and pressure him. We all remember Matty Bowen have a howler last season. I dread to think how Sarginson or Tierney could get on. I just hope they catch the first one. If they catch the first one - they'll be okay.
Saints fans are confident their pack will steam roller ours. I think our lads will match them physically - it's a derby. They have better players in Walmsley/Roby/Amor but Wane will have us up for it.
I would be more confident with Faz/Williams in the side, having said that I am going for a Wigan win.
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| What the frig is up with Williams. Following the Leeds game SW stated he expected him back for Widnes. That was nearly two weeks ago.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"What the frig is up with Williams. Following the Leeds game SW stated he expected him back for Widnes. That was nearly two weeks ago.'"
I was literally going to ask the same thing. Has anything been said on what his injury is??
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| I don't think either side's fans are confident on this one.
We struggled to beat a really poor Leeds team, coupled with our horrible good Friday record, makes me nervous for this one.
I think, even with who you have missing, you have more quality with the ball. I'm especially worried with how badly we defended down our left edge vs Leeds. I just can't see where our tries will come from.
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