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| It may just be me, but there does seem to be a lack of quality props coming through the academies in this country.
One of the best props in recent years is Jamie Peacock, but he's really a 2nd rower. Guys like him and Morley and Fielden, who might once have been considered the top end in prop forwards, they're coming to the end of their career (some could argue Fielden's career was over when he got flattened by Willie Mason) and there doesn't look to be that many props coming through to replace them.
Most clubs use the 4 prop rotation tactic but for that to be effective you need 4 guys who can play at prop plus maybe a 5th guy to cover should there be any injuries to the first choice guys.
It just doesn't seem a popular position to play in and as less and less young lads play there might we see an end to the prop in the modern game in the UK?
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"It may just be me, but there does seem to be a lack of quality props coming through the academies in this country.
One of the best props in recent years is Jamie Peacock, but he's really a 2nd rower. Guys like him and Morley and Fielden, who might once have been considered the top end in prop forwards, they're coming to the end of their career (some could argue Fielden's career was over when he got flattened by Willie Mason) and there doesn't look to be that many props coming through to replace them.
Most clubs use the 4 prop rotation tactic but for that to be effective you need 4 guys who can play at prop plus maybe a 5th guy to cover should there be any injuries to the first choice guys.
It just doesn't seem a popular position to play in and as less and less young lads play there might we see an end to the prop in the modern game in the UK?'"
No don't think it's the end for props, graham and s burgess are not old. Might see a different type of prop, but we are always going to have them in our game
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| Quote Ferdy="Ferdy"No don't think it's the end for props, graham and s burgess are not old. Might see a different type of prop, but we are always going to have them in our game'"
Yeah, but Graham and the Burgess boys aren't playing SL. That was my point, we don't have that solid prop player type coming through the ranks in this country. You could possibly argue that the NRL isn't turning them out at a good rate either as they're looking to SL for players in that position.
It maybe that you're going to see more 2nd rowers playing in the front row in future.
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| Hill
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Just off the top of my head
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"Yeah, but Graham and the Burgess boys aren't playing SL. That was my point, we don't have that solid prop player type coming through the ranks in this country. You could possibly argue that the NRL isn't turning them out at a good rate either as they're looking to SL for players in that position.
It maybe that you're going to see more 2nd rowers playing in the front row in future.'"
Explain what a ' Prop ' forward should look like and what skills set he should have ? , ditto a 2 nd row? , then you might have a point
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| Quote wolfinwidnes="wolfinwidnes"Hill
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Just off the top of my head'"
All top draw props!!! Think that might be the point!
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Explain what a ' Prop ' forward should look like and what skills set he should have ? , ditto a 2 nd row? , then you might have a point'"
Props should look like and play like Kevin Ward, Andy Platt or Kelvin Skerrett.
We have nothing like these fellers today in the UK.
Mind you, we are short of class centres and half backs as well.
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| Quote fleabag="fleabag"Props should look like and play like Kevin Ward, Andy Platt or Kelvin Skerrett.
We have nothing like these fellers today in the UK.
Mind you, we are short of class centres and half backs as well.'"
Expand further on that , what did those players do , that current ' props ' dont?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Expand further on that , what did those players do , that current ' props ' dont?'"
Took players heads off.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Expand further on that , what did those players do , that current ' props ' dont?'"
You go and do your homework ! I'm not doing it for you.
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| Quote fleabag="fleabag"You go and do your homework ! I'm not doing it for you.'"
So nothing different then
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| Quote Him="Him"Took players heads off.'"
And that didnt win us a competition either 
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